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Senior Research Staff, IFPRI West and Central Africa

Godfrey Bahiigwa

Discussing next steps in the harmonisation process, the role or ReSAKSS as well as the rise in agricultural productivity in Africa.


Harmonising CAADP reporting

Godfrey Bahiigwa

IFPRI research officer on the role of ReSAKSS and the development of African agricultural productivity

Online/Kampala, 14 Nov 2012. IFPRI researcher Godfrey Bahiigwa presents the Regional Strategic Analysis and Knowledge Support System (ReSAKSS) and how it helps with the implementation of CAAPD. One example for this is the support for the development of national investment plans. The policy research provided by ReSAKSS, he says, is crucial for informing policy-makers at various levels. Bahiigwa also acknowledges the difficulties and intricacies of harmonising CAADP reporting and explains the rise of agricultural productivity in Africa.

Read the transcript with minor edits below.

//  Role and responsibilities of ReSAKSS

Platform secretariat: Godfrey, recently you have been appointed to the position of the Africa-wide coordinator of ReSAKSS, CAADP's Regional Strategic Analysis and Knowledge Support System. With regard to CAADP implementation, where does the research of ReSAKSS come in? Could you illustrate ReSAKSS' supporting role with a practical example?

Godfrey Bahiigwa: The role of ReSAKSS is supporting CAADP implementation, to bring to the table knowledge and information, to guide regional communities and countries in formulating national or regional investment plans, implementing them as well as reporting. So that is the general role. With regard to specific examples, as recent as this week, I received a request by the African Union Commission in partnership with the pan-African parliament in South Africa. They are organising a meeting for the chairperson of the agriculture committee of parliament and they wanted to be able to report on the performance of African countries in the two key indicators of CAADP. That is the six per cent growth and ten per cent allocation of budget. So, the African Union wanted to ensure that they have this information to present to the parliamentarians. They requested ReSAKSS to provide this type of information. It's very simple and it's an easy way to communicate with the members of parliament. Fortunately, we were ready for them because this day, we just produced the Annual Trends and Outlook Report and it had that information. So, all we had to do was extract that information and they were quite happy with what we provided.

The role of ReSAKSS is supporting CAADP implementation, to bring to the table knowledge and information and to guide regional communities and countries in formulating national or regional investment plans.

Secretariat: From the perspective of your new role as Africa-wide coordinator, where do you see the key areas of ReSAKSS' work in the coming years? Do you see newly evolving focus areas? Watch.

G.B.: I think we need to recognise the area where we have the greatest strength: This has been monitoring and evaluation, better tracking of implementation of CAADP on the continent, reporting to the Annual Trends and Outlook Report - I think that has been our biggest achievement. Looking forward, we would like to continue with that. In the coming years, in addition to continuing with the Annual Trends and Outlook Report at the regional and continent level, we are taking that to the country level. Member countries are also beginning to produce their Annual Trends Report and that is a good tool to be used at the country level. So we'd like that to move foward.

With regard to new areas of work, ReSAKSS is involved in helping countries to establish national SAKSS nodes. The objective of that is to strengthen capacity at the national level for monitoring, for reporting at country level, for improving peer review and national dialogue in the interest of improving the quality of policy-making and also accountability at that level. We're looking at strengthening country SAKSS nodes as another big piece of work for ReSAKSS in the coming year.

Secretariat: Maybe you could explain briefly what a national SAKSS node is? Watch.

G.B.: What we envision is a network of individuals and institutions at country level that are involved in agricultural policy research - this can be composed of a policy and planning unit in a Ministry of Agriculture which can be the core and center of a national SAKSS node. But then the network is composed of national back-up providers, for example National Bureaus of Statistics. It can involve national policy research institutions, it can involve investors and also private sector organisations - all coming together in a network to improve the quality of policy-making, planning, monitoring of agricultural policy in a particular country.

// Quality policy research for improvements in policy-making

Secretariat: So where do you see the particular relevance of evidence-based policy and programming processes? That's where ReSAKSS is supposed to work in and that's the link to CAADP, isn't it? Watch.

G.B.: If I could draw the attention to the formulation of national agricultural investment plans in the modern African countries that have developed their CAADP latest investment plans: Almost all of them have used evidence to be able to inform the design of those investment plans and to make the best choice of investment that would bring about improved productivity and food security. One of the organisations that have been at the forefront of helping countries with evidence has been IFPRI. Certainly almost all the member states of ECOWAS did benefit from IFPRI policy research to inform their national investment plan. In the COMESA region, over half of the states that have signed the national investment plans, have used IFPRI-related research. In addition to IFPRI, there's also other research organisations at country level and regional level. Almost all countries have had to draw on the research and evidence that has been cut to inform their choice of investment. Clearly, having research that brings evidence to the table is quite important, especially during the process of national investment plans. But we're also seeing that for countries that already have investment plans, doing monitoring and also national dialogue and review, evidence is called for in those respects.

// Increases in agricultural productivity in Africa__ Temporary or sustainable?

Secretariat: You mentioned the Annual Trends and Outlook Report. One of the major findings was that productivity levels of African agriculture recovered and are catching up with the levels of the early 1960s. Is this a temporary phenomenon or can we expect productivity levels to rise further? Watch.

G.B.: Overall, productivity has increased from the mid-1980s to the mid-2000s. But as you correctly said, it is more or less recovering or catching up to the levels of the 1960s. I don't think it's a temporary phenomenon for several reasons: One, in the last ten to 15 years, we've seen increased interest and investments by African governments in agriculture. That is a strong piece of evidence to think about. Following the 2008 World Bank report that highlighted the importance of agriculture for economic transformations, we've seen global interest in agriculture at the policy level but also the private sector level. The private sector is getting interested in African agriculture.

The private sector is getting interested in African agriculture.

The combination of global interest and national and continental commitment, we think, will turn into more sustainable investments than we have seen before. Thirdly, even national level private sector are increasingly getting interested in financing agriculture. So, in addition to public sector investment, we see rising trends of private sector investment. We believe that this around, the benefits are likely to last longer than before when predominantly the public sector financed it. Even if we see public sector spending stagnating and declining in some cases, the fact that private sector spending is rising gives me confidence to think that this time, the rising productivity may be more sustainable than before.

//  Harmonising CAADP reporting__ High-level meetings planned

Secretariat: At the recent CAADP business meeting, ReSAKSS was tasked with making suggestions to harmonise the five different Progress Reporting mechanisms that inform the CAADP Results Framework (note from Secretariat: CAADMP M&E, The MDTF Results Framework, The Results Matrix for 2012-13 CAADP Implementation Support Priorities, Grow Africa Results Framework, The Action Matrices in the New Alliance Country Cooperation Framework). Where are you at with this? Where are the difficulties and what needs to be done here? Watch.

G.B.: The meeting called for the harmonising of the various reporting mechanisms to fit the overall CAADP framework. Looking at the indicators and industrial marks, I am aligning specific programme indicators. Now, the mandate was actually given to three organisations: The African Union Commission, the NEPAD Planning and Coordination Agency (NPA) as well as ReSAKSS. As a coordinator, I have been in touch with NPA and AUC and we have planned for an initial meeting the first half of December to work out a mechanism on how to achieve that harmonisation. Following that initial meeting, what is going to happen later is to get in touch with the various leaders of the different initiatives to work with them to ensure that their own reporting mechanisms talks to the overall CAADP command PP. That most likely will happen maybe in the first quarter of 2013. Maybe in January or February, we'll be in the position to call the leaders of the various initiatives to a first meeting. The idea is to report on progress and have met before the next PP which is planned for the end of March 2013. By then, we should have progress in that area.

Secretariat: It seems to be difficult in practice to form some incentives for change. How do you make people change their way of reporting? Watch.

G.B.: That is not something simple to do. But I'm hoping that the incentive is going to be the fact that they all report to the same forum, which is the CAADP PP. I think it would be good if every initiative is seen to be aligning to the overall CAADP. I'm not assuming that it's going to be easy but I'm assuming that the indicators being related in such a high-level forum would be an incentive for them to comply.

//  Continued support needed to keep up research

Secretariat: The Global Donor Platform is a network of 34 donor organisations and agricultural research is currently one of its focus areas. Why should donors invest in agricultural research? Watch.

G.B.: The progress in raising agricultural productivity in Africa has come out of improving efficiency of the current resources that farmers are using - and not from technological change. What that tells us is that in the future, productivity rise will have come from technological change. That requires that we prepare ourselves to generate the technologies that can be made available to farmers. And that, in turn, requires continuing investment in agricultural research. If you look at the trends for agricultural financing on the continent, at best we are stable but in many countries, there are actually declining shares of agricultural research in the national budget. Hence the need to have continued external support of agricultural research in Africa. In the short run, as we talk to African governments to increase agricultural research funding, I think we need to request continued agricultural funding on the continent. Because short of that, we will not be able to generate the technology that will sustain or increase agricultural productivity on the continent. Now, that is from an agricultural and scientific standpoint

To be able to improve the quality of policy planning, we need quality research done.

When it comes to ReSAKSS, which does policy research, I make the same argument: To be able to improve the quality of policy planning, investment planning, analysis, monitoring and review, we need quality research done and bring it to the table to inform policy discussions and choices - with the African Union, regional economic committees or even countries. And that is where the continued support for ReSAKSS is called for. But also, like I mentioned, we want to take this to the country level. So, support for ReSAKSS to be able to expand the work to include countries is going to be very critical. The initial funding that has come from IFAD and The Netherlands for the next three years will help to support the establishment of national country SAGs in about 15 countries. But you know that there are 54 countries on the continent, so again more support will be needed for us to be able to expand our efforts to cover all the countries on the contitent and especially the countries that have already signed the CAADP compact and investment plan.

//  Future work with the Platform

Secretariat: Are there specific ways the Platform's network character can support the work of ReSAKSS? Watch.

G.B.: I'm not yet familiar with the operations of the Global Donor Platform so as I get more into the job, that is an avenue I am going to explore. Certainly, it is a good platform for us to present ReSAKKS as a concept but also its outputs. We'll be exploring ways to optiise and maximise the opportunities that the Global Donor Platform offers. I'll be looking forward to your advice on how we could do that.

//  Sources

ReSAKKS

CAADP

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Richard Mkandawire, NEPAD secretariat


 Richard Mkandawire, Platform Secretariat

Though progress has been slow, CAADP means thinking on African development must be done within Africa, says NEPAD’s Prof. Richard Mkandawire.


African-owned and African-driven

Professor Richard Mkandawire

Administrator, Comprehensive Africa Agriculture Development Programme (CAADP)
Agricultural Advisor, New Partnership for Africa’s Development (NEPAD)
 Richard Mkandawire
CAADP gives Africa’s governments “a common framework” to harmonise their agricultural policies

Richard Mkandawire is a socio-economist and a rural development expert with a PhD. from the University of East Anglia in the UK. Both academic and development practitioner, he has taught at the University of Malawi, the University of Zambia, and in South Africa. Between 1992 and 1999 he was with the Commonwealth Secretariat as the Commonwealth Youth Programme Regional Director for Africa, facilitating micro-financing initiatives as well as the development of a wide range of livelihood initiatives for young people. Now based in South Africa, Professor Mkandawire works as NEPAD’s advisor on agriculture and is nominally in charge of driving forward progress on CAADP. He recently discussed CAADP’s progress with Timothy Nater.


How can African countries improve their current record on the Maputo commitment to agriculture?

We're confident that, by the end of 2008, on the basis of current trends, 10 African countries will have achieved the Maputo commitment of 10% of national budget allocation to agriculture. Rwanda, for example, has more than quadrupled its budget allocation — up to something like 20 %. Niger, Malawi and Mali are moving towards 10 %, and there's Ethiopia, which has always put considerable resources into agriculture. Of course, the situation varies greatly from country to country. For example, in those with large petroleum or mining industries, like Nigeria or South Africa, reaching 10 per cent of total budget allocation to agriculture is a different matter than in, say, Niger, where agriculture’s contribution to overall GDP is much higher.

But national budget allocation is not the only positive measure of Africa’s agricultural performance. Over the past five years nearly a dozen countries, including Eritrea, Ethiopia, Burkina Faso, The Gambia, Senegal and Tanzania, have either nearly achieved or exceeded the CAADP target of 6% growth in annual agricultural productivity.

What progress is being made on CAADP’s four “Pillar Frameworks”?

National governments need to speak with one voice to a common framework for the harmonisation of their policies, and our four CAADP Pillar Frameworks are intended to serve as guides. After two years of work, the Pillar 1 framework on land and water management is fairly advanced. There’s been a significant commitment of resources to this by the international community, notably $150 million dollars from the Global Environmental Facility for supporting sustainable land management under the TerrAfrica initiative, launched in 2005 to fight desertification and land degradation. The TerrAfrica initiative has leveraged an additional $1 billion as investment financing to support the scaling up of sustainable land and water management practices in Africa.

“National budget allocation is not the only positive measure of Africa’s agricultural performance.”

The other framework that has seen the most progress is Pillar 4 or agricultural research, technology transfer and adoption, known as the Framework for Africa Agriculture Productivity (FAAP) and led by the Forum for Agricultural Research in Africa (FARA). A number of African countries are starting to base policy on FAAP and the development community, including the World Bank, the EC and DFID, is already committing very substantial resources to sub-regional research organisations like CORAF/WECARD and ASARECA for Western, Central and Eastern Africa, as a basis for increasing agricultural productivity.

Pillar 2 for market access and food supply, and Pillar 3, the development of rural infrastructure, are still not fully developed. Negotiations are now taking place across Africa on agribusiness and value chain development. The Pillar 2 and 3 framework documents should be ready by July 2008 for endorsement by African ministers of agriculture.


 Richard Mkandawire
“We’re actually managing to focus the attention of national governments on agriculture.”
Why has progress been slower on Pillar Frameworks 2 and 3?

The architecture of development has changed. It is now vital that development is home-grown. The thinking process on African development has to start within Africa, not in the offices of the international donor community. This is time-consuming. We need to collect and build up our capacities on many issues. For these to be African-owned frameworks, it's important to have broad-based consultations, not only with government officials, but also with non-governmental organisations, farmers organisations and other key players that have to be involved in the preparation of these frameworks, and with the African institutions that can provide the necessary facilitation. Africa's constituents have to internalise the entire CAADP agenda so that it is African-owned and African-driven. NEPAD, as the mother ship of CAADP, provides overall leadership in this process, and we’re exploring ways in which donors can help us increase our capacities and work through the regional economic communities, or RECs.

What are some of the issues to consider when incorporating the framework documents into national and regional compacts?

Each of the framework documents are intended to guide national governments as they address generic priorities, the key issues at continental level that drive African agriculture. The key NEPAD-related principles, whether regional markets or regional integration, land policy, private sector involvement or the critical bottleneck of insufficient capacity, need to be focused and brought to the fore.

“CAADP is repositioning agriculture at the top of national development agendas.”
How many countries have developed national compacts?

Rwanda is the only one so far, but we reckon there will be 10 national compacts signed by the end of 2008. Before you can sign a compact, you need to complete a range of consultation and analytical work, define the opportunities and investment requirements and formulate a response at country level. This will shape the nature of the compact. What is significant from our end is that we’re actually managing to focus the attention of national governments on agriculture and reposition it at the top of their national development agendas. Rwanda's national compact was a cabinet-level matter, in which the Minister of Finance together signed a compact with the Minister of Agriculture. We'd like to see the same thing happen in other African countries, and between all development partners.

What does peer review look like in agriculture and rural development?

Peer review is not about being judgemental and finding fault with the performance of other countries, but rather a vehicle for mutual learning, within the context of the CAADP Partnership Platform. This is where regional economic communities and national governments, who are already going through the roundtable process share experiences, discuss the challenges and explore opportunities for surmounting obstacles. Peer review is not happening in a very structured way yet, which is why we’d like some of the regional institutions to help develop discussions that are evidence-based and concern technical challenges, and to provide some guidance on how to structure a new African agricultural agenda.


How does NEPAD see the new global initiatives around African agriculture, for example the Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa, AGRA?

We welcome these new initiatives to stimulate desired growth in the agricultural sector in Africa. Our appeal is that partners should be aware that there is an African-defined framework, and it is absolutely critical that any initiative taken helps reinforce the CAADP process. It's understandable that a lot of these foundations are impatient. They want to move quickly without being encumbered by government red tape. But while one can agree that governments are sometimes slow, one should also say that a business-like culture can't just be parachuted into a village, or into structures that have already existed for decades. Where there is an opportunity for them to really move quickly in support of transformation, then let it be done, but it must be within the processes that have been defined by national governments.

Rising food prices prompted ECOWAS ministers in May, 2008, to discuss a common agricultural policy for Africa at a meeting in Abuja, Nigeria. Is this the sort of thing CAADP is encouraging?

We're not only encouraging this, CAADP was very much a part of the discussions that led to this decision. ECOWAS countries are heavily dependent on imported rice and have been very adversely hit, especially the urban poor. Common policies and indicators for agricultural production, a reduction of intra-African trade barriers and regional cooperation in the systems of food distribution are all vital weapons in the fight against rising food prices.

“We'd like the Platform to advocate more forcefully to bring on board those countries and organisations that are not yet part of CAADP.”
How are CAADP’s relations with the Global Donor Platform?

There’s no doubt that the Global Donor Platform has begun to really energise the discourse around agriculture in Africa. The very fact that they have nominated a CAADP Focal Point in Addis Abeba, Yihenew Zewdie, is a very positive development. We have discussed with him how to coordinate our efforts. We'd like to see the Platform being supportive of the efforts we've already defined on the ground, rather than duplicating things. We welcome the work they are doing in coordinating donors around the Paris Declaration and would welcome fullest possible participation from all donor institutions. We'd like the Platform to advocate more forcefully to bring on board those countries and organisations that are not yet part of the CAADP process.

 Richard Mkandawire
CAADP aims not to bring in large external funding but rather to “mobilise resources at country level.”
The CAADP Partnership Platform has just held its third session. How useful are these meetings?

This is a unique forum where the RECs, private sector and development partners meet to review progress in agriculture. It’s the first of its kind in the international discourse around Africa. The CAADP Partnership Platform allows for very open discussions around progress and ways to accelerate our commitment to the CAADP agenda. One of its strengths is that it allows African government representatives to meet the donors as a collective and encourages them to speak with a common voice.

What are some of CAADP’s main challenges and opportunities, and what personal lessons have you learned?

We need to address the misconception by national governments around what CAADP intends to achieve. There is a mistaken belief at national level that CAADP will bring huge new funding with it, when in fact our aim is rather to mobilise resources at country level. We've begin in a small way to create awareness that CAADP is not a development project but a framework. Our entry point is principles and processes, and the aim is to add value to structures or initiatives that are already in place. That understanding needs to be gotten across to national governments. Another challenge is that, so far, the public sector has had a sort of monopoly on agriculture. We need to enlarge the playing field for NGOs, civil society and the private sector.

As for me, it is a privilege to be part of the current global efforts in addressing the critical challenges facing us all, namely hunger and poverty in Africa. This is immensely rewarding. Of course, at times it’s also exhausting and frustrating, because we’re not operating in a value-neutral environment. There can be enormous contestation. But what’s important is that we’re making progress.

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Martin Bwalya, head of CAADP at the NEPAD agency

 Online interview with Martin Bwalya on CAADP

Video interview with Martin Bwalya, head of CAADP at the NEPAD agency.


Institutional reforms vital for sustaining achievements

Martin Bwalya

head of CAADP at the NEPAD agency

Johannesburg, 22 Jun 2012.  Martin Bwalya highlights CAADP’s achievements as well as the crucial need to improve institutional capacities if it was for CAADP’s results to be sustainable in the long run.

//  Martin Bwalya of NEPAD agency

In an online interview with the Platform, the head of CAADP at the NEPAD agency, sketches out how the relationship between donors and African partners could evolve in future, stressing the importance of local ownership and the critical influence of the global financial crisis on development finances. The Comprehensive Africa Agricultural Development Programme was a key actor in addressing food insecurity and boosting agricultural productivity in Africa, says Bwalya.

Interview transcript

//  CAADP implementation progress

Platform Secretariat: Thanks Martin, for giving us this interview opportunity and that you agreed for giving us your own perspectives on the CAADP agenda and the implementation status. Many countries conducted roundtables so far and did their sector planning and programming by now. Can you tell us where CAADP is right now in terms of operationalisation on the ground?

Martin Bwalya: Thank you so much for this opportunity. Coming to your question, we have seen very rapidly increasing momentum in terms of action at country level to engage in CAADP implementation. As we speak now, out of the 54 countries we have over 40 countries formally engaging into CAADP implementation. Out of these over 40 countries, 30 have signed their national compact which is an important milestone in the process of CAADP implementation. And out of those 30 countries, 23 have gone as far as finalising their investment plans as well as going through what we call the independence technically review of their respective investment plan and investigating and forecasting on the implementation of programmes along the priorities identified in these plans. Out of those 23, we have about 9 to 15 countries that have had very significant financing into the specific programmes of their investment plans. I should also mention that currently there is growing focus on supporting, strengthening and aligning capacities at country level in terms of CAADP implementation. [...]

Probably you would like to have a little bit of concrete explanation on what is in essence going on behind these investment plans, behind the compact. First of all, we see countries coming up in a very practically way to embrace planning and [...] ultimately committing to evidence based analysis. Thus, planning systems and the capacities to plan as well as the efforts for ensuring appropriate planning mechanisms are being strengthened and aligned. Furthermore, we see a different conversation between the stakeholders, both in terms what the public sectors are doing and also on how this is affecting the other state and non-state institutions around the common vision on agricultural development. [...]

"[...] Governments are becoming much more realistic, much more definite in terms of what financing agriculture means."

Another area to mention is commitment to inclusiveness, to collective responsibility and to look for synergies, complementarities as well as adopting much more comprehensive strategies and programme support. We also see a growing commitment or re-commitment to accountability in terms of asking ourselves about the results and critically monitoring performances. So, robust discussions are appearing and these are very much linked into solid analysis and solid evidence on what is happening. In addition, governments are becoming much more realistic, much more definite in terms of what financing agriculture means. This also includes thoughts on how to use public sector financing for raising additional private sector financing and supporting not just welfare directly but a broad based social-economic growth agenda [...].

//  CAADP to improve policy design

Secretariat: CAADP has been around for quite some time, now. Looking back at the progress that has been made so far there is also obviously some criticism that could be taken, constructively. What could have been done better, Martin?

MB: There are some elements that could have been done differently, could have been done better. For instance, there could have been more forecast into policy directly, into policy elements in terms of strengthening policy designed systems, in terms of assessing the quality of policies themselves and also in terms of ensuring broad based analysis concerning the appropriateness of policies in place [...]. In addition, there could have been more deliberate efforts in building the whole institutional architecture for supporting implementation based on multi-stakeholder arrangements. [...] Apparently, in most countries it does emerge that with the investment plans in place, there is a better position [...] to get an improved conversation for institutional arrangements and aspects. This is especially important when beginning a conversation on policy issues which immediately becomes political and therefore difficult to move ahead.

We also appreciate that there are discussions around how much we have emphasized domestic resources and financing and how well we can actually support countries to look inward in terms of into the continent and into countries about investment financing, about capacity for private sector financing. [...]

//  Relationship CAADP-donors

Secretariat: We are talking about things that could have been done better. An important point about CAADP is that there is a huge amount of investment that comes through the donors. So what would you say in terms of the relationship with the donors? What could have been done better, from the donors' side and maybe also from the NPCA's side towards the donors?

MB: Yes, one of the unique character items of CAADP is the issue around this relationship and financing.

"[...] Development financing [...] as we have known it in terms of development aid is not going to be the same [...]."

One of the things that is really clear is that development financing – also on the background of the global financial crisis and the current debt crisis in Europe – as we have known it in terms of development aid is not going to be the same in terms of the amounts flowing but also concerning the instruments, the decisions, and the amendments. Another thing we have discussed enormously is the issue of development effectiveness. In fact if you look into the NEPAD principles and into the CAADP principles, you find statements calling for effectiveness in development partnerships by acknowledging not only local African responsibilities and ownership but also by stressing that we need much more mutual partnerships which are not just about support to the developing country or continent but look at what is mutually gained out of that flow of resources either way. Therefore, what has been managed in NEPAD and CAADP and the whole continent in terms of advancing CAADP implementation, is that countries are becoming much clearer, much more definite and much stronger about sitting at the table and ask for a local, a national agenda on agriculture. They also link this into evidence based analysis and enhance capacities for analysis to find that they are able to engage in much more robust negotiations in terms of private sector financing, in terms of agenda setting and in terms of what is the best way forward.

Especially in bilateral relationships there is still a lot that needs to be done on speaking the same language. I think we have slogans that are very good and mean very well in terms of local ownership and development effectiveness but the crucial question is how to translate these into reality. I also want to acknowledge here that we are talking about partnerships and relationships that have build over several decades, so they are not going to go away in a flash. Small but significant steps are being taken towards the issues mentioned but these are fragile and they can disappear due to inappropriate interventions and policy decisions and that is why we want to look through CAADP in detail for identifying these small significant steps and actually ensure that they are supported and strengthened, so that we can bring such practices to a critical mass for spreading their value [...].

//  Institutional reforms around CAADP

Secretariat: Just one more thing, what comes to my mind here is the question whether CAADP can actually succeed without any substantial institutional change? What do you think, both on the African institution side and the donor institution side? Or do you think that this is actually an ideological question?

MB: No, I think this is what we are dealing with in sustaining the CAADP momentum. What you are saying there is inherent in the principles and targets of CAADP looking for transformation.

"[...] The issue of institutional transformation, institutional reform is the co-foundation for taking CAADP and development forward."

We are getting financing enough to deliver results but we also need to sustain what we are achieving. For this, the issue of institutional transformation, institutional reform is the co-foundation for taking CAADP and development forward. In fact a lot of what I mentioned in the beginning in terms of what is being achieved on the background of the investment plans is linked to this transformation agenda and that is why we are saying we have to look at the policies now, we have to look at the institutions because without that you can achieve six per cent growth but you are not able to sustain it. Therefore, even if the whole equation changes it is not just about achieving six per cent, it is about building the capacity to sustain six per cent.

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