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Director General of the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI)

Shenggen Fan

Progress monitoring is essential to enhance accountability of both donor and recipient country governments to achieve global food security. Shenggen Fan, DG of IFPRI, calls for strengthened commitment and increased cooperation and coordination between traditional and emerging donors.


Constraints of global food policy implementation

Shenggen Fan

Director General of the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI).

Online, 22 Mar 2013. Shenggen Fan, IFPRI Director General, highlights possible ways to overcome constraints to implementation of global food policies, stressing the importance of coordination between donors of the South and North countries.

//  Successful food policies in 2012

Platform secretariat: Shenggen, IFPRI's new report throws the light on policies that impact food and nutrition security: in other words, not only food policies, but also trade policies and alike. What have you found is the best development that contributes positively in terms of policies towards food security?

Shenggen Fan: Well, first of all, food policies include policies related to production, technology, processing, consumption and trade. The trade is a core pillar of food policy. For 2012, positive aspect is that, first of all, many donors and national governments have heavily increased their investments in agriculture, and in agricultural research in particular. These countries include India, China, Brazil and some African countries. The donor agencies include Germany, United States and IFAD. They have committed and implemented many programs to support agriculture and food production. And, indeed, we have already seen a tremendous impact of that heavy investment: increased production and productivity, increased smallholder income and poverty reduction. So there have been some positive aspects in terms of food policy in 2012.

The trade is a core pillar of the global food policy.

//  Barriers to food security progress

Platform secretariat: On the other side of the medal, what in terms of policies hinders the food security progress mostly?

S.F.: Watch Some of the policies that have hindered the progress of food security, poverty reduction, and hunger reduction have been the same or similar for the last several years. Yes, many countries have increased investments, but many others have not. Many parts of Africa still underinvest in agriculture and agricultural research. South Asia continues to underinvest in agriculture and ARD. And many countries continue to use export bans or import policies to distort the global food markets. And as you know, when everybody try to isolate their markets from international market, it actually increases global market volatility, this would come back to hit individual countries. So we need to work together to make sure that trade is more open, and that there are no trade restrictions, and in particular export bans, otherwise prices continue to rise.

We have also seen a lot of discussions and commitments and promises to increase the investment, to work together, to tackle some trade issues, climate change issues, to link agriculture to health and nutrition. But we have to make sure that these discussions and debates are also converted into actual implementation. At IFPRI, we call it “Walk the talk.”

//  Accountability and assessment

Secretariat:  We often have the impression, especially on the development arena, that certain policies never grow teeth. Do you have any indication on why that is? How can certain governments claim certain policies that never really put money on it, how can that be?

S.F.: Watch  This is probably due to a couple of interrelated and important issues. The first one is clear accountability. If people keep making promises, who is going to make them accountable to meet their promises. Second, we have to develop indicators, some measures to track the progress. When we have the indicators, we can make people accountable. Without these indicators, we will not be able to do that. These two issues are interlinked: the accountability and the way to track and measure the progress.

//  Raising agricultural productivity and sustainable consumption

Secretariat: Usually food policies are looking at raising agricultural productivity and all the processes that are related to the amount of food actually produced. There are scientists, for example Tim Lang, that indicate that this is not going to make the trick for very much longer (innovations of processes and so forth). Are you also looking in that context on overconsumption and lifestyle patterns, and what can be done in terms of policies to change the outlook, maybe also family planning and so forth?

S.F.: Watch  Well, we do have to produce more. As you know, by 2050 we have 9.3 billion people. So we have to produce 60 per cent more food. In developing countries, the food production has to double. Therefore, we do have to increase food production and productivity. On the other hand, we have a tremendous opportunity to make sure the diet, particularity in rich countries, is sustainable and healthy. For instance, production of beef or any other meet increases water use and greenhouse gas emissions, making a negative impact on the environment. By overconsumption of these commodities, we also need to treat heart diseases, diabetes, and all these chronicle, non-communicable diseases. So our future diet pattern has to be nutritious, sustainable and healthy. The conclusion is that we need to produce more, but on the other hand, we need to make sure that our consumption pattern is sustainable, healthy and nutritious.

Donor countries should also improve the coordination among themselves and engage with emerging donors, such as India, China and Brazil, that also begin to invest in food and agricultural development in many developing countries.

//  Liberalisation of trade and price volatility

Secretariat: Coming back to trade liberalisation, since the discussion is very old: do you think that it is not so much about trade liberalisation, but it is more about state interference that creates volatility, especially if the policy changes too often, and the expectation in the market gives rise to speculation, and therefore, prices might go up?

S.F.: Watch Trade liberalisation needs a framework, needs some regulation from a global level. If we have that framework, no country will interfere their markets unilaterally. If they do that to eventually, they will also hurt themselves. These issues are actually interlinked. We know there is a political interest in countries to protect a certain group of people by trade policy. Whether it is a long-term distortion or a short term-interference - any "economic efficiency laws" will cause more volatile global food market, leading to an increased number of hungry and poor people. It will also give a wrong signal to producers. Because producers would face volatile and unpredictable markets. So it is a "lose-lose" proposition, if a country uses a distortive policy to protect a certain group of people in their countries because of some political reasons.

//  Cooperation between traditional and emerging donors

Secretariat: We are working for the Global Donor Platform for Rural Development. Donors are also countries with their own interests. What from your findings could be your message to the donors?

S.F.: Watch Well, first of all, I have to acknowledge that some donor countries have been very committed in supporting agriculture and food security. But they need to do more. More investment is needed to support agriculture productivity growth, particularly a smallholder production and productivity. And to support countries' capacity. As you know, L'Aquila declaration aimed to use 22 billion dollars to support countries-led initiatives and programs. So do make sure that donors support will build up the countries' capacity.

Traditional and emerging donors can work together, share the experience, coordinate their interventions and make sure that there is no duplication and no competition. I think, the potential is just great.

Secretariat: Do you have any particular thing in mind, when you think of concrete actions to take forward? What would have the most positive impact?

S.F.: Watch There are many ways. One is to promote mutual learning among developing countries and North-South learning. Data, policies and statistics are weak. So if we can have these countries to set up a good statistical system to monitor their progress and to build their own capacity, then these countries will bring a very strong case to their political constituency to use agriculture to achieve broader development outcomes, such as nutrition, health or overall economic growth. I think, donor countries should also improve the coordination among themselves and engage with emerging donors, such as India, China and Brazil, that have also begun to invest in food and agricultural development in many development countries. Traditional and emerging donors can work together, share the experience, coordinate their interventions and make sure that there is no duplication and no competition. I think, the potential is just great.

//  Downloads

2012 Global Food Policy Report__ PDF

//  Sources

Institute for Food Policy Research (IFPRI)

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Ousmane Badiane, Director for Africa

 Video interview with Ousmane Badiane on AFSI

Video interview with Ousmane Badiane, Director for Africa at IFPRI.


Ousmane Badiane on AFSI__
Donors’ efforts in global food security

Ousmane Badiane

Director for Africa, IFPRI

Washington DC, 18 Feb 2012.  Ousmane Badiane is the Director for Africa at the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI). He recently participated at the Washington meeting of the L’Aquila Food Security Initiative (AFSI). In this video, Ousmane Badiane talks about the commitments made by global donors, and the steps necessary to meet the food security targets in the Millenium Development Goals (MDG).

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Senior Operations Management Advisor, IFAD

Brian Baldwin

What is the difference between PRAI and rai? How can FDI quality be assessed? Find out in this interview.


Responsible agricultural investment

Brian Baldwin

IFAD's Senior Operations Management Advisor and Platform co-chair, discussing the impacts of FDI for developing country agriculture

Rome, 19 Oct 2012. The 39th Session of the CFS also focused on the Principles for Responsible Agricultural Investment (PRAI). Brian Baldwin, IFAD's Senior Operations Management Advisor and Platform co-chair, emphasises the importance of the Principles and reports on the outcomes of a side event which he chaired on the impacts of FDI and responsible agricultural investment (rai) on developing country agriculture.

Read the transcript with minor edits below.

//  Seeking well-planned, consensual investments

Platform Secretariat: Brian, the 39th Session of the CFS focused, among other things, on the Principles for Responsible Agricultural Investment (PRAI). Why are they needed and how can these principles shape agricultural investments?

Brian Baldwin: Thanks for the opportunity to talk to colleagues and friends on the Global Donor Platform this afternoon. As the Chairman of the CFS said yesterday, he wants to ensure that agriculture remains a career for many young people in Africa and in Asia and in Latin America. We also know from the recent World Bank/IMF meetings in Tokyo about the emphasis that’s been placed on job creation. Now, agriculture has a wonderful potential to fulfill those roles as well as contributing to the increasing need for food in developing countries and in urban areas. But what we're seeing, though, with the increasing need for food and therefore the increasing need for investment in agriculture, is that sometimes those investments aren't well-planned, sometimes they technically fail, sometimes they become controversial. So we've worked together with the World Bank, with IFAD and FAO, and UNCTAD to develop a set of principles that we want to help guide domestic and foreign investors in how they put funding into the agricultural sector.

rai in small case, rather than capital letters, refers to the general discussion about responsible agricultural investment.

Secretariat: Could you talk more about the differentiation between PRAI and rai and how important it is?

B.B.: What I've just been referring to, the work of IFAD, the World Bank, UNCTAD and FAO have done, was in September of 2008. We presented at the side event of the UN General Assembly the "Principles for Responsible Agriculture Investment". And we've been working on those the last three years to test them, to see which are the most influential proposals on which we need to further work on. That's what the PRAI is. Now, in parallel to that, there is a growing understanding of the need for responsible agricultural investment, which is where the rai comes from. So you could talk about the PRAI as the principles that we've developed, but then the rai - and some people will say it's the rai in small case, rather than capital letters - refers to the general discussion about responsible agricultural investment.

//  Gauging negative and positive FDI__ Data needed

Secretariat: You chaired a side event at the CFS in which current research on the impacts of FDI and rai on developing country agriculture was presented. What was the main outcome of this event?

B.B.: I think there were several outcomes. One was, I think, a general appreciation that at long last there was some data, some research, that was on the table to assess the quality of investment, the scale of investment and the impact of that investment on food production and also on cash crop production. There's been an awful lot of debate and controversy around such areas as land grab, which has not really been filled up by technical studies. So, that was the first attempt to start to look at some of the information that's been available from existing investments, what have been their pros, what have been the negative aspects of those investments.

At long last, there is some data on the quality, scale and impact of investment on food production.

And I think it also was an opportunity for different stakeholders. We had governance, we had an excellent intervention from Nigeria, for example, we had interventions from donors, we had interventions from civil society, we had interventions from the private sector. So it was really an opportunity to bring all those stakeholders together and start to look at and discuss what makes good investment from domestic and foreign investors work in developing countries.

//  Adapting the principles on a country-by-country basis

Secretariat: Looking forward: What impacts will the Principles have in the future? Do you see investors and governments applying them?

B.B.: Clearly, we very much that they will, if not apply them, then interpret them for their country conditions. Some countries will look at issues, for example the principle that we talk about, transparency, and perhaps on a country level think, "Well, what do we have to do in our parliaments, in our public bodies to improve the transparency" - again about both domestic and foreign investment. Again, a lot of the controversy has been about foreign investment, but the biggest source of private sector funding going into agriculture comes from domestic investors. So we're hoping that then governments will take these principles and adapt them to their own particular needs. Private sector will say, "What exactly do you mean by environmental sustainability and how should our projects be looking at environmental sustainability and how should those projects be contributing to a broader development impact?" We want to develop that conversation with those various stakeholders and support them where possible.

We hope governments will interpret PRAI for their own country's conditions.

//  Increasing agricultural investments

Secretariat: Brian, you are co-chairing the Global Donor Platform as a network of donor agencies. Platform members IFAD, FAO and World Bank have contributed to the formulation of the Principles. From your unique IFAD and Platform perspective, what can the Platform do to promote the Principles for the benefit of rural smallholders?

B.B.: That's a key challenge and it's a key part of the Platform's mandate. With its 33 members, we have a wonderful opportunity for those members to take those principles and discuss them within their own donor institutions and have that discussion about what works, what they should apply to their own programmes. And then secondly, for those donors to take those principles out into the field, to discuss them with their stakeholders, private sector, government, civil society, parliamentarians, and see what needs to be modified, where the constraints lie. The objective, of course, is always to increase the level of domestic and foreign investment going into agriculture to increase food production and household income. So it's an opportunity for our platform members to have a tool that they can take and use to fulfill that objective.

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CFS 39

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David Hegwood, USAID Food Security Advisor

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Video interview with David Hegwood, Food Security Advisor at USAID.


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Keeping track of food security financing

David Hegwood

Food Security Advisor, USAID

Washington DC, 18 Feb 2012.  Having recently participated at the Conference of AFSI Participants in Washington DC, the USAID Food Security Advisor David Hegwood speaks about the L’Aquila Food Security Initiative (AFSI) and its importance for the G8 Summit in May. Three years after its founding (2009) and its tracking of the financial commitments donors made to address food security, the AFSI group is finalising the G8 accountability report. It will demonstrate how well donors have done in providing the financial commitments they made.

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